Interview with Michael B. Jordan

acclaimed actor and filmmaker

by Jay Shetty Podcast2024-03-11

Michael B. Jordan

In a candid and deeply personal conversation on the Jay Shetty Podcast, Michael B. Jordan peeled back the layers of his extraordinary life, revealing the thoughtful introspection behind his immense success. Far from the typical press circuit, Jordan sought a space to share his heart, offering listeners a rare glimpse into the mind of a man navigating fame, purpose, and the profound journey of self-discovery.

From Guilt to Glimpse of Purpose: The Newark Roots

Growing up in Newark, New Jersey, Michael B. Jordan experienced a childhood shaped by humble beginnings and unwavering parental support. He recalled a time when his family "grew up very poor but didn't feel like it," thanks to his parents' ingenious ability to shield their children from hardship. These formative years, marked by school, basketball, and frequent trips to New York City for auditions, instilled in him a foundational optimism and a spirit of dreaming big.

However, as success found him at a young age, a complex sense of guilt began to brew. Jordan openly shared his struggle with questioning why he, among peers who looked just like him, was given opportunities and breaks that others weren't. This led to a profound internal conflict, where he felt he couldn't fully share his experiences without alienating those he cherished. This introspection, however, was balanced by the strong examples of service set by his parents – hosting block parties, cooking church dinners, and opening their home to the community. These acts deeply resonated, imbuing Jordan with a sense of purpose beyond personal achievement. Looking back, he cherishes those memories with "so much joy and there's Bliss," recognizing in hindsight the immense love and sacrifice that shaped him.

Key Insights:

  • Early success can lead to imposter syndrome and guilt, especially when peers face different realities.
  • Childhood values of service, instilled by family, can become a lifelong guiding principle.
  • Hindsight offers profound gratitude and understanding for past experiences and parental sacrifices.

The Pivotal Shift: Embracing the Path and Intuition

For years, Jordan wrestled with self-doubt, feeling like he "didn't deserve this." The transition from this mindset to fully embracing his path was a gradual but powerful one, solidifying only "maybe two years ago, maybe a year ago." It was a culmination of battling imposter syndrome, listening to others who believed in him, and actively seeking tools for self-improvement. He invested in an executive coach and a spiritual advisor, deliberately building a support system to "maximize myself."

A significant catalyst for this transformation was stepping into his directorial debut for Creed 3. Taking on the mantle of "captain of the ship" brought immense responsibility and pressure, thrusting him into "a mindset of leadership that I never quite had the opportunity to do before." This challenge became the crucible in which his sense of purpose was forged. Jay Shetty echoed this sentiment, noting that "it's the challenge that makes us become that person." Beyond professional growth, Jordan spoke of an urgent drive to break generational cycles and trauma within his own family. He felt a deep commitment to not "refuse to ignore" the opportunity he had to create a better future for his nephew and future generations. Central to this journey, Jordan emphasized the power of intuition as his "North Star," explaining that when something "feels right" – even if logic or external opinions suggest otherwise – it's often "been the right move."

Key Changes:

  • Consciously shifted from self-doubt to embracing a personal path and purpose.
  • Invested in professional and spiritual coaching to enhance self-awareness and leadership.
  • Embraced significant challenges (like directing Creed 3) as catalysts for personal growth and leadership development.
  • Prioritized breaking generational cycles, driven by a desire for family legacy.

Cultivating Growth: Mind, Spirit, and the Power of Team

Michael B. Jordan's holistic approach to life extends to cultivating his mind, spirit, and the teams he builds. For spiritual grounding, he relies on his advisor, Ramona Oliver, emphasizing the importance of morning meditation "to clear yourself and prepare yourself for the day." He believes that "what are you projecting on a situation to help it manifest instead of negatively thinking about things that can help block your blessings?" This practice helps him reframe negativity and step out with intention.

On the leadership front, executive coach Drew Cugler taught him the art of "healthy conversations" and the necessity of speaking to team members in their unique "love languages" to ensure messages are received as intended. Jordan recognized the challenge of disrupting an industry with "generations and generations of taught behavior and practices," and the need to evolve from being seen purely as "talent" to a multi-hyphenate leader. His approach to team building is equally intentional, guided by intuition and a desire to create an environment where people "want to be" rather than just showing up for a paycheck. He seeks "humble Champions" – individuals with ambition who can set aside ego for the collective good – and fosters a culture where he's happy to spend time with his team outside of work, knowing that "the best ideas sometimes come from those just hangout moments."

Key Practices:

  • Daily meditation and intentional positive projection to clear the mind and manifest goals.
  • Strategic communication tailored to individual team members to foster understanding and collaboration.
  • Conscious effort to disrupt ingrained industry identities and be recognized for evolving capabilities.
  • Intuition-driven team building, focusing on shared values, low ego, and creating a supportive environment.

The Obsession with Impact: Legacy, Health, and Being Enough

Jordan's drive is fueled by an "obsession" with making an impact. He passionately urges others to "just hold on, just endure" through challenging times, believing that "you're the closest to getting what you want is always the hardest." This tenacious spirit, honed since childhood by the "healthy chip" of sharing a name with the legendary Michael Jordan, pushes him to compete and strive for excellence in all areas.

His current obsessions are varied and profound: "getting my team right," strengthening his family, continuing to "break generational trauma and curses," and dedicating himself wholly to every project, like his upcoming film with Ryan Coogler. This multi-layered ambition extends to his venture, MOSS, a health beverage born from a personal need during a demanding film shoot. What started as a "labor of love" to help his sister stay healthy during the pandemic evolved into a mission to make the cognitive and immune-boosting benefits of sea moss accessible to everyone. Ultimately, beneath all the ambition and drive, Jordan finds peace in a simple, profound truth. With a nephew now looking up to him, mimicking his every move, his intentionality has deepened. He's no longer proving anything to anyone "other than myself and my family," and has realized that "giving your best is enough" – a powerful affirmation for himself and for all those listening.

"[You're enough man]" - Michael B. Jordan